tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post5089143107070573320..comments2023-04-16T10:24:32.414+01:00Comments on Mishkan ha-Echad - Golden Dawn Blog by Frater Yechidah: Self-Initiation Into Adeptus Minor?Frater Yechidahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08630272924336872824noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-42429441858113087112012-02-01T20:22:32.097+00:002012-02-01T20:22:32.097+00:00That quote is from the Ciceros, Neo.
I agree with...That quote is from the Ciceros, Neo.<br /><br />I agree with them, however, that it is possible to become an adept as a solitary magician.<br /><br />But to be an Adept in the GD requires GD initiation, because the GD is a lodge-based system with temple initiations.<br /><br />Being an Adeptus Minor in the GD does not necessarily make one an adept either, as there are many who just get what amounts to token initiations.<br /><br />In the end "doing the work" is what is important, regardless of whether you have received a formal initiation or not.<br /><br />LVX,<br />Dean.Frater Yechidahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08630272924336872824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-63971910880713283972012-02-01T19:32:43.551+00:002012-02-01T19:32:43.551+00:00Thank you for your incredible insight Dean.
YOU...Thank you for your incredible insight Dean. <br /><br />YOU WROTE: However we agree with Regardie in his belief that continued and persistent repetition of the Opening by Watchtower Ceremony over a long period of time can result in the acceptance of the performer as an Adept in the astral realms".<br />..............................<br /><br />After over yen years of theurgy, and prayer for initation; this "acceptance of the performer in the astral realms" is all i can really hope for i guess. <br /><br />I agree with your article wholeheartedly. In that consideration, where does that leave the solitary to seek this initation? <br /><br />edneognosticahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13245556100155172903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-52404544866907240202009-09-29T17:15:40.352+01:002009-09-29T17:15:40.352+01:00Well, i'm not quite sure if this is to late to...Well, i'm not quite sure if this is to late to ask, but has anyone found mathers' self initiation into 5=6?<br /><br />I've been looking for about a week, and the best i can do is the opening by watchtower, but it would be great if someone actually found this document.<br /><br />LVXUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12173927474011372782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-53493512035804589702008-09-04T21:12:00.000+01:002008-09-04T21:12:00.000+01:00Ave VAH & Samael,I would just like to thank yo...Ave VAH & Samael,<BR/><BR/>I would just like to thank you for the comments and excellent insights. I agree wholeheartedly with the both of you, and thank you for elaborating on some elements that I merely hinted at in my post.<BR/><BR/>LVX,<BR/>Dean.Frater Yechidahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08630272924336872824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-75447865158329179002008-08-28T17:49:00.000+01:002008-08-28T17:49:00.000+01:00I think that both Vah and Dean are on the right tr...I think that both Vah and Dean are on the right track here. The RR et AC is a physical Order and requires its members to be physically initiated into it. The grade of Adeptus Minor or Minore is just that a grade within that body. <BR/><BR/>In my opinion, while it is not possible to self-initiate into a specific physical Order, it certainly is possible to self-initiate into a current so that you can do the work associated with an Order. This is especially true of becoming an adept in the Hermetic Tradition. Through hard work, and I do mean Hard Work, can align yourself with the appropriate energies to be considered an adept or someone that is able to do the work of an adept using the material from some group like the RR et AC.<BR/><BR/>Just having gone through Vault and being initiated into the RR et AC does not mean much outside of the particular group that does the initiation, and it is completely up to the person to do the work to make further connections with their Higher Self. This is true of any initiation or grade recieved from any group, GD, RR et AC, Masons, etc.<BR/><BR/>Regardie was a huge proponent that a person's Higher Self would recognize them as adepts if they did certain rituals enough times. A person can be an adept through doing this work in the tradition of the GD and the RR et AC, but not be a member of a physical Order of either.<BR/><BR/>In LVX Fraternitas,<BR/>SamuelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-32303568187849191702008-08-28T05:29:00.000+01:002008-08-28T05:29:00.000+01:00Dean,having considered this same thing, it has com...Dean,<BR/><BR/>having considered this same thing, it has come down to two things for me. Am I, through my work -<BR/><BR/>1) Attempting to initiate myself into the golden dawn tradition, which would require being invited to a vault at some particular time,<BR/>or<BR/>2) Attempting to initiate myself into the Western Mystery Tradition, which would not require being invited into any vault. <BR/><BR/>One of the hangups that seem to pervade this is the 5=6 vault ceremony has become (for those interested in the GD work)the epitome of Adepthood. Without it, alot of individuals feel somewhat lost as to 'whats next', and to be honest, as to printed material available, this seems to be reaffirmed. <BR/><BR/>I know for me I remind myself that there is no plateau thatll be reached when I hit 5=6, its not the end of anything. Perhaps something remarkable will happen in a vault ceremony but from my experience and I can imagine yours as well doing the work, without a vault, there are still substantial results. One becomes Ripe for Initiation, and nature leads the way. <BR/>The big hangup with this of course is without any mentor, I believe a person can become misguided, like you mentioned in your blog. Fortunately there are organizations that provide a wonderful service to others that assists in this matter ( I believe you and I participate in a similar one as a matter of fact)<BR/><BR/>I like the believe that doing the Work is like knocking on the door. And a little elbow grease always helps. <BR/><BR/>VAHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com