tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post3836554624979026820..comments2023-04-16T10:24:32.414+01:00Comments on Mishkan ha-Echad - Golden Dawn Blog by Frater Yechidah: Grade Placement & the Minutum MundumFrater Yechidahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08630272924336872824noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-11054466535790227812009-08-21T19:30:24.319+01:002009-08-21T19:30:24.319+01:00Ave Brother B.h.D.A.,
Yes, your colours match bet...Ave Brother B.h.D.A.,<br /><br />Yes, your colours match better. Russet isn't the colour I'd employ for Water. It has a reddish tint to it, so potentially Philosophus could go there. The olive green could work with Water and Practicus, and the citrine yellow makes sense for Air/Theoricus. This would mean they cross over the opposing sides, which could fit well with the dual nature of them that you described, and also other structures of the Tree that cross back and forth.<br /><br />As for alchemical colours, that could work, definitely. I'd probably put black for Malkuth/Outer Order, since that is mainly about putrefaction, etc. The white stage is next, I believe, and works well with Portal/Spirit, and then Red for Adeptus Minor in Tiphareth also works well. I've never seen the Peacock's Tail used as a stage itself, but more as a result, but then I'm far from an expert on alchemy. Perhaps Samuel can chime in here and give us his insight. I'd probably leave Neophyte uncoloured or include it as part of the 1st Degree (but then technically it's a probationary grade).<br /><br />LVX,<br />Dean.Frater Yechidahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08630272924336872824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-18187670510246888382009-08-21T19:12:37.652+01:002009-08-21T19:12:37.652+01:00I based the tertiary colors/grades on the obvious ...I based the tertiary colors/grades on the obvious color connections, rather than the combination of sefirot leading into those colors. I don't know, off hand, if there was anything written about how the colors of Malkhut are associated with the elements. If there is, it would follow that the grades would be associated in a similar way. Either way we've talked about here seems to work.<br /><br />As for relating colors to the 3 degree structure, I have no idea. The alchemical colors work fine, I think. It might work better with four phases than three, though. Neophyte being the black phase, Zelator-Philosophus the white phase, Portal the peacock's tail and Adeptus Minor the red phase.<br /><br />You could possibly switch around Zelator-Philosophus with Portal. I'm not sure, off hand, which comes first in alchemy. Its not really my gig.<br /><br />b'shalom<br />-Bro. BhDAAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12107164402295666876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-69733394601547300182009-08-21T19:09:21.173+01:002009-08-21T19:09:21.173+01:00Ave Jonathan,
I don't know much about enginee...Ave Jonathan,<br /><br />I don't know much about engineering, but I think I know what you mean. The colour system is redundant in that it is not exactly needed, since there are other methods in the GD system to explain these things. It is, however, an extra layer of depth to the system, and it has a remarkably strong effect on the psyche.<br /><br />LVX,<br />Dean.Frater Yechidahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08630272924336872824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-54410998921486909582009-08-21T19:05:05.677+01:002009-08-21T19:05:05.677+01:00Ave Leon,
Glad you like it.
LVX,
Dean.Ave Leon,<br /><br />Glad you like it.<br /><br />LVX,<br />Dean.Frater Yechidahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08630272924336872824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-68524042915254698352009-08-21T19:04:46.321+01:002009-08-21T19:04:46.321+01:00Ave Brother B.h.D.A.,
You make some good points. ...Ave Brother B.h.D.A.,<br /><br />You make some good points. I wonder how the colours apply with the 3 Degrees structure. They may not apply at all to that.<br /><br />I would put Practicus in the Russet section, since it is the combination of Hod and Yesod. I'd then put Philosophus in the olive section, as the combination of green of Netzach and Yesod, and finally Theoricus in the citrine part, as the combination of Hod and Netzach.<br /><br />I like your thoughts on the tones as roots for the three primaries. It certainly makes sense for grey/blue and black-red/red, and white/yellow isn't too much of a stretch when we know that Kether is the root and source of Tiphareth's light. So I suppose the last image could technically be amended to include the above.<br /><br />LVX,<br />Dean.Frater Yechidahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08630272924336872824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-40587429344553421512009-08-21T09:28:10.823+01:002009-08-21T09:28:10.823+01:00Nicely written, Dean.
Looks like Bro. BhDA had so...Nicely written, Dean.<br /><br />Looks like Bro. BhDA had some good insights from the article. The color scales are a redundant language in GD to demonstrate relationships between energies on the TOL in a similar way to how Gematria is used to show relationships between concepts. When I use the term "redundant" I do so from the point of an engineer. Redundancies are necessary in a system to ensure completion of a goal by multiple approaches. Color is utilized as another way of exploring the GD version of Kabbalah.<br /><br />What we are dealing with on the "Path of the Chameleon" is a language composed of 256 letters (128 colors plus their complements.)Jonathanhttp://blog.rahorakhtytarot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-35711286207400019462009-08-20T20:54:42.245+01:002009-08-20T20:54:42.245+01:00You have an amazing blog. Full of great informatio...You have an amazing blog. Full of great information, that I need to sift through! Thanks.Leon1234https://www.blogger.com/profile/12707501065021550093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-30973256973516533262009-08-20T16:34:31.456+01:002009-08-20T16:34:31.456+01:00Okay, one last thing on the colors of the sefirot....Okay, one last thing on the colors of the sefirot. As I said before, they are based on basic color theory (with kind of the exception of Tiferet). The tree starts not with colors but tones, white, gray, black. The gray will be the root of blue and the black is actually black with red. This leads easily to the next triad or at least Chesed and Gevurah (Tiferet is a bit wonky, its colors seem to be based on the colors of the sky during sun rise/set, unless we posit that white is the root of yellow). The gray leads to blue, the black with red leads to red. Pretty simple. Then we have the next triad. These are the combination of either Chesed or Gevurah with the yellow of Tiferet. Yesod is the combination of the colors of Chesed and Geburah. You've covered Malkhut, so there that's pretty much it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12107164402295666876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-965291110074390288.post-7395410862033352052009-08-20T14:53:45.556+01:002009-08-20T14:53:45.556+01:00Hmmm, interesting thoughts. The sefirotic colors a...Hmmm, interesting thoughts. The sefirotic colors are derived through a pretty simply (and now outdated) use of color theory, through the mixing of pigments.<br /><br />Now, eventually learn that all of the grades of the outer order are in Malkhut, and it is only in Portal that you actually step out of Malkhut and into Yesod. How do you think this plays out in your schema here?<br /><br />The black portion more or less remains the same, representing Zelator. Theoricus would be represented by the citron portion, combining Netzach and Hod (fire and water = steam). <br /><br />The other two seem a bit tricky. The Practicus grade goes to the olive portion, which is a combination of Netzach and Yesod, fire and air, which doesn't necessarily give us water (hot + dry + hot + hot + moist). Philosophus, which combines the colors of Hod and Yesod, is equally problematic (cool + moist + hot + moist). It would seem that these two are switched. Maybe, maybe not. Practicus and Philosophus are sometimes seen as the opposite side of the same coin. Perhaps this suggest that the seeds of one are hidden in the other. <br /><br />There might even be a subtle alchemy here. Fire and Water obliterate one another in Theoricus, combine with their opposites in Practicus and Philosophus and are crowned with spirit in Portal (which was the original terminal grade, before the RR et AC was developed).<br /><br />Random thoughts, anyway.<br /><br />b'shalom<br />-Bro. BhDAAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12107164402295666876noreply@blogger.com